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 Post subject: Name Discrepancies
UNREAD_POSTPosted: April 18th, 2017, 11:40 am 
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Does anyone have any advice when it comes to name discrepancies? When my grandfather was born my grandparents knew very little English as such, all last names on his birth certificate read "Menze", even though all last names should have been "Manzi." My great grandparents had more children all of which ended up having the correct last name. I received my great grandparent's birth and marriage certificates from Italy with the Manzi name however since all parties are deceased I can't legally change my grandfather's birth certificate which the name Menze has been passed down to me. If I produce baptism records, census records, and other family records is there any way they will accept this without a change? Do you recommend setting up a meeting with the consulate before going any further? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Name Discrepancies
UNREAD_POSTPosted: May 2nd, 2017, 12:44 pm 
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I guess my first question is- what is the name on the naturalization papers, if you have them?
Stick with government records, like the census records, as these can be certified/apostilled.
If could find a census record with your GGP, your GF and his siblings, and then have BC's of some of the siblings along with your GF's BC, then you could tie the whole family together with the same last name to show that your Menze GF is actually part of the Manzi family. Hopefully the census record does list either Menze or Manzi. If it does not, look for a census record that does have the correct last name.

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me + S
L: GGF>GF>M
comuni/provincia/regione: Macchia Valfortore e Larino, Campobasso, Molise
Cons: SF
1st appt: Feb 2011
2nd : March 2011
Rec. lett : April 2011

Pigbk:
L: Me> D
Cons: SF
Appt: Jan 2013
Rec. letter: March 2013


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 Post subject: Re: Name Discrepancies
UNREAD_POSTPosted: May 2nd, 2017, 7:34 pm 
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Hello and happy spring! my questions seem related to the topic so I will put them here rather than starting a new one.

My son and I qualify either through my GF-F or GF-M line. We’ll be applying through boston. I need help deciding which side to pursue given some not so insignificant name discrepancies in the direct line on both sides.

For my GF-M line there is discrepancy in my GF's surname and first name on my documents:
BC: Alfonso Meo (italian)
MC: Alfonso Meo (italian)
CoN: Alfonso De Meo
DC: Alfonso DeMeo
M’s BC: Alphonso De Meo
M’s MC: Alphonso DeMeo
M’s DC: Alfonso DeMeo

All of his U.S. Documents as well as my mother’s were issued in NY. My mother’s name has consistency throughout her documentation.

For my GF-F line my father’s documents are the mess. His BC was never filed with the state of NY. I have obtained a letter of no record for this. However we have his BC that he used to apply for the military but again was never filed with NY. The spelling of his first name is just all over the place to boot. Take a look:

BC, not filed: Crescinzo
Baptismal record: Crescenzo
U.S. Census under his father: Crescinzo T
MC: C. Theodore
Passports 1-4 Crescinzo, Crescinzo, Chris Theodore, Chris Theodore
DC: Chris T.
My BC from NY state: Cris
My BC from hospital: Chris

(when I requested my BC from the state is came as Cris santaniello, I have the Original BC however from the hospital with the spelling Chris.)
The good news is that his last name is consistently spelled throughout and that his father’s name is as well.

Which of the two discrepancies seem easier to salvage? Is there a way to get the commune to recognize Alfonso Meo as being the same as Alfonso De Meo? Will I need to get my mother’s BC and MC ammended (can I?) so that alphonso becomes alfonso? Or would it be better to... I need some help strategizing.


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 Post subject: Re: Name Discrepancies
UNREAD_POSTPosted: May 3rd, 2017, 3:21 pm 
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Again, I would obtain the naturalization records if you have not done so already. I am not sure you have a lot of worry in either path, the surname on M side is consistent in "Meo", and on F side, I assume the last name is consistent and only the first name is inconsistent, but not really that far off. The comune is not going to change records, so work with what you have. Stick with government records. Your making too much out of the "ph" to "f" transformation! Relax....

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me + S
L: GGF>GF>M
comuni/provincia/regione: Macchia Valfortore e Larino, Campobasso, Molise
Cons: SF
1st appt: Feb 2011
2nd : March 2011
Rec. lett : April 2011

Pigbk:
L: Me> D
Cons: SF
Appt: Jan 2013
Rec. letter: March 2013


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